الاثنين، 15 أغسطس، 2011

was jesus birth from women?

IS GOD BORN OF A WOMAN ?

The gospel of Thomas 15 says:

Jesus said: When you see one who was NOT born of woman, prostrate yourselves onto your faces and worship him; that one is your father.

In Galatians 4.4-5 Paul says:

But, when the fulness of time came, God sent forth his son, made OF a woman, made under the law, in order to redeem those under the law,……

In Job 14:1 says:

Man that is born OF a woman is of few days, and full of trouble.( job 14:1)

So was Jesus was born of a woman and short lived and had a troubled life...so he cannot be God

New test is mainly based on personal letters thoughts and grudges between church fathers, bishops , popes, historians. Such as Irenaeus , Herodutous, Clements Tertullian Marcions…accusing each other of omissions and lies. An example of that is Tertullian on Marcion , he writes :
“Let the sponge of Marcion be ashamed of itself; except that it is superfluous for me to discuss the passages he has LEFT OUT…”
skipping the phrases about the son being made OF a woman
The Dead Sea Scrolls:
1QS: “The Community Rule”: 11.20-21: “Who can endure Thy glory, and what is the son of man in the midst of Thy wonderful deeds? What shall one born of woman be accounted before Thee? Kneaded from the dust, his abode is the nourishment of worms” (TCDSSIE:117).
Christians think Jesus is God, Son of God and portion of the Trinity with the holy spirit ( Gabriel) at one and the exact same time. Their perception is founded by 4 of the 12 disciples John, Matthew, Luke and Mark.

birth of jesus

How Mary Conceived and Delivered "God". Mary conceived Jesus like any other woman: "The days were accomplished that she should be delivered," (Luke, 2:6) which means that she went through all the normal stages of pregnancy. Nor was her delivery any different from other expectant mothers: "And she being with child cried, travelling in birth, and pained to be delivered." (Revelation, 12:2)

mercy in the quran


take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.

وَلا تَقْتُلُوا النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلاّ بِالْحَقِّ ذَلِكُمْ وَصَّاكُمْ بِهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ (151



فَإِنِ انْتَهَوْا فَلَا عُدْوَانَ إِلَّا عَلَى الظَّالِمِينَ

(البقرة 193).



Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.

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وَقٰتِلوا فى سَبيلِ اللَّهِ الَّذينَ يُقٰتِلونَكُم وَلا تَعتَدوا ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لا يُحِبُّ المُعتَدينَ ﴿١٩٠﴾

Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.



ادعُ إِلىٰ سَبيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالحِكمَةِ وَالمَوعِظَةِ الحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجٰدِلهُم بِالَّتى هِىَ أَحسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعلَمُ بِالمُهتَدينَ﴿١٢٥﴾



Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance



فَاصفَح عَنهُم وَقُل سَلٰمٌ ۚ فَسَوفَ يَعلَمونَ ﴿٨٩﴾



But turn away from them, and say "Peace!" But soon shall they know!



خُذِ العَفوَ وَأمُر بِالعُرفِ وَأَعرِض عَنِ الجٰهِلينَ ﴿١٩٩﴾



Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; But turn away from the ignorant.



فَبِما نَقضِهِم ميثٰقَهُم لَعَنّٰهُم وَجَعَلنا قُلوبَهُم قٰسِيَةً ۖ يُحَرِّفونَ الكَلِمَ عَن مَواضِعِهِ ۙ وَنَسوا حَظًّا مِمّا ذُكِّروا بِهِ ۚ وَلا تَزالُ تَطَّلِعُ عَلىٰ خائِنَةٍ مِنهُم إِلّا قَليلًا مِنهُم ۖ فَاعفُ عَنهُم وَاصفَح ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ المُحسِنينَ﴿١٣﴾



"There has already been for you a Sign in the two armies that met (in combat): One was fighting in the cause of Allah, the other resisting Allah. these saw with their own eyes Twice their number. But Allah doth support with His aid whom He pleaseth. In this is a warning for such as have eyes to see."



وقد قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم -مبينًا الغرض الأساسي من بعثته النبوية السامية-: (إنما بُعثت لأتمم مكارم الأخلاق)

ومكارم الأخلاق هذه هي الأساس في حفظ حقوق الآخرين، وعدم الاعتداء، وسلامة المجتمع، ومن ثم التقليل من الخسائر بما يضمن للآخرين التعايش بالصورة الإنسانية الصحيحة.



وفي الحرب ضرب الرسولُ الكريم أروعَ المثل على الرحمة والعدل والتفضل ومراعاة أعلى آدابها الإنسانية؛ ففي قتاله لا يَغدر ولا يفسد ولا يَقتل امرأة أو شيخًا أو طفلا، ولا يَتبع مُدبرا، ولا يُجهز على جريح، ولا يُمثِل بقتيل، ولا يسيء إلى أسير، ولا يلطم وجها، ولا يتعرض لمسالم.



فمن وصايا النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم لأمراء السرايا والجيوش:



فعن بريدة رضي الله عنه قال: كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا أمّر أميرًا على جيش أو سرية أوصاه في خاصته بتقوى الله عز وجل وبمن معه من المسلمين خيرًا ثم قال: (اغزوا باسم الله في سبيل الله، قاتلوا من كفر بالله، اغزوا ولا تغُلّوا ولا تغدروا)

ويقول صلى الله عليه وسلم: (إن الغادر يُنصب له لواءٌ يوم القيامة فيُقال: هذه غَدْرة فلان بن فلان)



وقال صلى الله عليه وسلم: (لكل غادرٍ لواء يوم القيامة يُعرف به)



وقال أيضًا: (لا تقتلوا ذرية ولا عسيفًا) ولا تقتلوا أصحاب الصوامع)



وقد رأى الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم في إحدى الغزوات (غزوة حنين) امرأة مقتولة فغضب وقال: (ما كانت هذه تُقاتِل)



ولا شك في أن النهي عن قتل الضعفاء، أو الذين لم يشاركوا في القتال، كالرهبان، والنساء، والشيوخ، والأطفال، أو الذين أجبروا على القتال، كالفلاحين، والأجراء (العمال) شيء تفرد به الإسلام في تاريخ الحروب في العالم، فما عهد قبل الإسلام ولا بعده حتى اليوم مثل هذا التشريع الفريد المليء بالرحمة والإنسانية، فلقد كان من المعهود والمسلّم به عند جميع الشعوب أن الحروب تبيح للأمة المحاربة قتل جميع فئات الشعب من أعدائها المحاربين بلا استثناء



فحياة الإنسان لدى النبي الكريم مصونة لا يجوز التعرض لها بالترويع أو الضرب أو السجن أو الجلد



فعلى أساس احترام النفس الإنسانية كان الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم يربي أصحابه



والرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم يوفي بالعهود والوعود التي يقطعها على نفسه، ويشدد على نفسه إلى أقصى مدى حقنا للدماء.



وما أروعَ قولَ الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم يوم الحديبية: "والله لا تدْعوني قريشٌ إلى خُطَّة توصل بها الأرحام، وتعظم فيها الحُرُمات إلا أعطيتهم إياها"



The Messenger of Allah peace be upon him - indicating the primary purpose of the prophetic mission of the High Commissioner: - (I was sent to complete good morals)

And morals this is the basis for the preservation of the rights of others, and non-aggression, and community safety, and then reduce the losses to ensure the coexistence of other human right image.



In the war hit the Holy Prophet the finest example of the compassion, justice and kindly, and taking into account the higher literature of humanity; In the fight does not betray it does not invalidate does not kill the woman or old man or child, do not follow a deliberate, not equipped with a wounded, and does not represent Baktil, not detrimental to the prisoner, and slugging face, are not subject to peaceful.



It is the commandments of the Prophet peace be upon him for the princes and armies Saraya:



It was narrated that Buraydah may Allah be pleased with him said: The Messenger of Allah peace be upon him if was healed, the army or secret advised him in his fear of Allah Almighty and including Muslims who better, then he said: (invade in the name of God in the way of Allah, they fought them so that invade do not boil or Ngdroa)

He says peace be upon him: (The treacherous focus his banner on the Day of Resurrection will be said: This is treachery So and so)



He said peace be upon him: (for each left the brigade known as the Day of Resurrection it)



He also said: (Do not kill any children or Asiva) do not kill the owners of silos)



He saw the Prophet peace be upon him in one of the invasions (Battle of nostalgia) a murdered woman became angry and said: (What was the fight)



There is no doubt that the prohibition on killing the weak, or who did not participate in the fighting, Kalrhban, women, elders, children, or who were forced to fight, peasants, and wage earners (workers) something the uniqueness of Islam in the history of wars in the world, what era before Islamor after the date of such legislation unique is full of mercy and humanity, has been entrusted with and accepted by all peoples, the wars allowing a belligerent nation, killing all classes of people from their enemies combatants, without exception,



Rights in the lives of the Holy Prophet shall not be permissible exposure intimidation or beatings, imprisonment or skin



On the basis of respect for the human soul was the Prophet peace be upon him raising his friends



And the Prophet, peace be upon him Yoffie covenants and promises of the same, and stresses the same to the fullest extent of the bloodshed.



How great words of the Prophet peace be upon him on Hudaybiyah: "God does not call me Quraish to plan reached by the ties of kinship, and maximize the privacy but I have given them"

fChrist (pbuh) cannot be said to have failed in his mission


Christ (pbuh) cannot be said to have failed in his mission. God supported him with astounding miracle and convincing arguments. Whatever distortion has befallen the scripture preached by Christ, it must have happened after his ascention to heaven. Failure and disintegration are the works of the followes who fell a prey to whims and... caprice. In this connection God says:

[And (remember) when God will say (on the day of reurrection): ‘O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto men: ‘worship me and my mother as two gods besides God?’ He will say: ‘Glory is to You! It is not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely, have know it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden (and seen). Never did I say to them aught except what You (God) did command me to say: worship God my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when you took me up, You were the Watcher over them; and You are a Witness to all things’.”] (Holy Qur’an: 5: 116-117)

orgnal sin


ESV translation of the said verse:



Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.



As you can see for yourself, this verse is not teaching the Original Sin, it seems to be about the sinful act of adultery yielding a child; the Psalm is thought to be a projection upon the future child of an adulterous relationship.



However, the NIV translation does seem to teach a branch of the Original Sin (i.e. babies are with sin):



Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.



So which translation is correct?



Firstly, if the NIV translation (the one teaching Original Sin) is correct then the Bible-believing Christians will have contradictions on their hands. The verses mentioned in the opening article on the topic of Original Sin (Ezekiel 8:4 and 20, 2 Kings 14:6) would be deemed as contradicting Psalm 51:5, thus further discrediting the Bible.



However, in my research of Psalm 51:5 I have found three more verses (from the OT) which seem to refute the idea of Original Sin. The first two go together(Jeremiah 3:25 and Genesis 8:21); they appear to indicate a human only becomes sinful from his/her youth, i.e. at the time of discernment between right and wrong (good and evil). In fact Jeremiah 3:25 indicates humans sin from their youth onwards, thus the idea of Original Sin upon babies seems to be in real question here.



This age of discernment between good and evil appears to be mentioned in Isaiah 7:15-16 as well.





The NIV translation seems to be in error and appears to be unfaithful as the NASB, ESV and KJV all disagree with the NIV translation. The three aforementioned translations all indicate the child was conceived in sin UNLIKE the NIV which suggests the child was sinful at the time of birth.



New American Standard Bible (NASB):



Behold, I was (A)brought forth in iniquity,And in sin my mother conceived me.



King James Version (KJV):



Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me



English Standard Version (ESV):



Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.



So there is NO teaching of Original Sin in this verse! The verse is concerning the sin of adultery; it does not mean the child is born with sin. In fact the verse does not make mention of Adam's sin.



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paryer of jesus

Almighty God doesn’t pray to anyone. Jesus [Peace Be Upon Him] did and said others to do the same.



Like every prophet ,Jesus [PBUH] prayed to Almighty God and said others to do the same



Matthew 26:39

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Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”



Luke 11:1-4



One day Jesus was praying in a certain place. When he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples.”



He said to them, “When you pray, say:

“‘Father hallowed be your name,

your kingdom come.

3 Give us each day our daily bread.

4 Forgive us our sins,

for we also forgive everyone who sins against us.

And lead us not into temptation.



It is Mentioned in Matthew 6:6



But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.



It is Mentioned in Mark 11:25



And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.



‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only. [Matthew 4:10]

’Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’ [Luke 4:8]

why urs worship jesus if jesus worship god

which bible and which church?

Which Bible ? What Church – Denomination? ………………….JESUS May Select in his Second Coming to the World ?????????????????

Christian Churches & Major Denominations

(38,000 Different faith groups among the Christian world according to the latest report.)



Please Select The Right One? And the straight Right Path ?

Catholic Church

Eastern Orthodox Church

Oriental Orthodox Church

Church of the East (Assyrian)

Pre-Lutheran Protestants

Lutheranism

Anglicanism

Presbyterianism

Congregationalist Churches

Anabaptists

Brethren

Methodists

Pietists and Holiness Churches

Baptists

Apostolic Churches – Irvingites

Pentecostalism

Charismatics

African Initiated Churches

United and uniting churches

Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)

Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement

Southcottites

Millerites and comparable groups

British-Israelism

Christian Revival Church

"Original" denomination

"Prairie Saint" denominations

Rocky Mountains denominations

Oneness Pentecostalism

Unitarianism and Universalism

Bible Student groups

Swedenborgianism

Messianic Judaism

Jewish Christians

Esoteric Christianity

New Thought Denomination

Syncretistic religions incorporating elements of Christianity



This is not a complete list, but aims to provide a comprehensible overview of the diversity among denominations (Vast difference in faith and Beliefs) of Christianity. As there are reported to be approximately 38,000 Christian denominations



Holy Quran Says:

And indeed, Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.(43:61)



Which one is the straight path among all ?????????



(43:3) verily We have made it an Arabic Qur’an that you may understand. *1



*1 The object of taking an oath by the Qur'an is to impress this fact: "We are the Author of this Book and not Muhammad (upon whom be Allah's peace)," and the attribute of the Qur'an chosen for the oath is that it is a "lucid Book". To swear by the Qur'an itself with its this attribute in order to impress that the Qur'an is Divine Word by itself implies this: "O people, this is an open Book before you. Read it intelligently. Its clear and un-ambiguous themes, its language and literary style, its teaching which distinguishes the truth from falsehood, all arc testifying to the fact that none but the Lord of the Universe could be its Author.



Please comment with original authentic scriptural evidence alone? As man’s word are empty in front of the scriptural evidence

Lies upon Lies on crucifixion of Jesus!

Lies upon Lies on crucifixion of Jesus!



Plenty of Prophesies in the Old Testament about the Messiah getting saved from crucifixion



The following Biblical verses that further refute the crucifixion and resurrection lies according to the teachings of certain books in the Bible



Following verses of the Bible confirms Jesus Christ was being lifted and saved: (Also the following verses satisfies the teachings of Islam and its message in the Quran)







Luke 4:10-12



10 For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect and guard you.



11 And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”



12 Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’”







Matthew 4:5-10



5 Then the devil took him to the holy city, Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple,



6 and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off! For the Scriptures say, ‘He (Almighty) will order his angels to protect you. And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”



7 Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’”



8 Next the devil took him to the peak of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.



10 “Get out of here, Satan,” Jesus told him. “For the Scriptures say, ‘you must worship the Lord your God (Almighty) and serve only him.’”

★ GLOBAL ISLAM

★ GLOBAL ISLAM
‎"Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradiction and error."
[Qur'an, An-Nisa 4:82]

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