//Mathew 16:21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life...//
You cannot blame people for believing what Allah made apparent to them.
and then Allah took 600 years to tell us he made it appear so We don't imagine that Jesus was crucified. Allah made it appear so.
Sura 4:157 is directly at loggerheads with the salvation that is promised thru the death and resurrection of Jesus.
Bible is the pure word of God. Absolutely no corruption whatsoever. Quran also has some words of God, the ones that agree with the Bible
Keerikkadan Jose So Allah made it appear that Jesus was crucified. Ok then, it was Allah's plan that everyone, including
Jesus's mother and his disciples, believe that Jesus died on the Cross. So isn't it unfair to blame the Christians for
believing that Jesus died on the Cross? Allah himself wanted that to happen //
Actually Jose,
i know very well this stupid logic of neo,which he copied from others,im sure you got this view from reading the post he cmnted.
We have discussed this before,and will do now also.
//Neo Ledge Allah created Christianity by his deceptionBut why do Christians think he was crucified? Because Allah admits that he made it appear so: S 4:157-158Once God had caused belief in Jesus death and resurrection, he then worked diligently to aid the Christians in spreading their false message: Qur’an 61:14.• This verse is extremely important, for it means that Allah helped the followers of Jesus against the Jews who rejected Jesus, and that these followers “became uppermost.”• For the next 600 years, Allah sat back and watched all these people converting to, and following Christianity; a religion that was started by his deception.• But he did not bother to lift a finger to correct anything until 600 years later, when he sent Muhammad with the Quran - to sort out the mess that he himself (Allah) had created.Why would God want people to believe
that Jesus was dead when he really wasn’t?• Muslims can’t argue that God did it to protect Jesus from the Jews or Romans, since God was taking Jesus away safely anyway!! //
// Neo Ledge Allah created Christianity by his deception But why do Christians think he was crucified? Because Allah admits that he made it appear so: S 4:157-158Once God had caused belief in Jesus death and resurrection, //
I dont understand why you foolish Christians don;t use brain...?
Neo a shameless looser,first stop copying others text and pretending to be smart,for you r nothing but an arrogant Christian liar who shamelessly lie to glorify the man god.
Infact you are not good in even making false claims.
Let me show to everyone. how your lie traps you in ur own net.
so,everyone, he said Allah did deception (nauzbillah) which he didn;t did.but he said he did.
the so called deception was in saving Christ,not in worship christ. so,even his lie is also wrong.
lets see point no 2 :
//Once God had caused belief in Jesus death and resurrection//
Does Holy Quran says Jesus died and ressurected ?
ha ha ha ha ha
What a shameless liar you are neo...you can;t even lie properly... looser.
go home and drink milk baby.
//he then worked diligently to aid the Christians in spreading their false message: Qur’an 61:14.•This verse is extremely important, for it means that Allah helped the followers of Jesus against the Jews who rejected Jesus, and that these followers “became uppermost.”//
The Verse he posted is :
Sahih International
O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah , as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, "Who are my
supporters for Allah ?" The disciples said, "We are supporters of Allah ." And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant.
THIS HAPPENED BEFORE JESUS STARTED PREACHING...NOT AFTER JESUS SO CALLED DEATH.
It was Jesus who asked people,not Allah Almighty. so this part is refuted.
Now last part of cmnt:
// For the next 600 years, Allah sat back and watched all these people converting to, and following Christianity; a religion that was started by his deception.• But he did not bother to lift a finger to correct anything until 600 years later, when he sent Muhammad with the Quran - to sort out the mess that he himself (Allah) had created.Why would God want people to believe that Jesus was dead when he really wasn’t?• Muslims can’t argue that God did it to protect Jesus from the Jews or Romans, since God was taking Jesus away safely anyway!!//
today we have a book,which is 100-200... this is Gnostic Document and is not part of canon.
this say that jesus was not crucified ,he was sitting on tree and laughing on those who were crucifying him.
anyways..What it says is not important here,imp is writing date..which was between 100-200....
IF ALLAH MADE IT FOR EVERYONE TO BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED FOR SINS AND WORSHIP HIM THEN HOW THIS WRITER CAME TO KNOW HE WAS NOT CRUCIFIED ?
there were many others no 1 not 2 but many who believed jesus didn;t died on cross.
ur 3rd claim is refuted.if you think im wrong,then give me proof that for 600 years everyone believed Jesus died on cross.
thank you.
S.A
You cannot blame people for believing what Allah made apparent to them.
and then Allah took 600 years to tell us he made it appear so We don't imagine that Jesus was crucified. Allah made it appear so.
Sura 4:157 is directly at loggerheads with the salvation that is promised thru the death and resurrection of Jesus.
Bible is the pure word of God. Absolutely no corruption whatsoever. Quran also has some words of God, the ones that agree with the Bible
Keerikkadan Jose So Allah made it appear that Jesus was crucified. Ok then, it was Allah's plan that everyone, including
Jesus's mother and his disciples, believe that Jesus died on the Cross. So isn't it unfair to blame the Christians for
believing that Jesus died on the Cross? Allah himself wanted that to happen //
Actually Jose,
i know very well this stupid logic of neo,which he copied from others,im sure you got this view from reading the post he cmnted.
We have discussed this before,and will do now also.
//Neo Ledge Allah created Christianity by his deceptionBut why do Christians think he was crucified? Because Allah admits that he made it appear so: S 4:157-158Once God had caused belief in Jesus death and resurrection, he then worked diligently to aid the Christians in spreading their false message: Qur’an 61:14.• This verse is extremely important, for it means that Allah helped the followers of Jesus against the Jews who rejected Jesus, and that these followers “became uppermost.”• For the next 600 years, Allah sat back and watched all these people converting to, and following Christianity; a religion that was started by his deception.• But he did not bother to lift a finger to correct anything until 600 years later, when he sent Muhammad with the Quran - to sort out the mess that he himself (Allah) had created.Why would God want people to believe
that Jesus was dead when he really wasn’t?• Muslims can’t argue that God did it to protect Jesus from the Jews or Romans, since God was taking Jesus away safely anyway!! //
// Neo Ledge Allah created Christianity by his deception But why do Christians think he was crucified? Because Allah admits that he made it appear so: S 4:157-158Once God had caused belief in Jesus death and resurrection, //
I dont understand why you foolish Christians don;t use brain...?
Neo a shameless looser,first stop copying others text and pretending to be smart,for you r nothing but an arrogant Christian liar who shamelessly lie to glorify the man god.
Infact you are not good in even making false claims.
Let me show to everyone. how your lie traps you in ur own net.
so,everyone, he said Allah did deception (nauzbillah) which he didn;t did.but he said he did.
the so called deception was in saving Christ,not in worship christ. so,even his lie is also wrong.
lets see point no 2 :
//Once God had caused belief in Jesus death and resurrection//
Does Holy Quran says Jesus died and ressurected ?
ha ha ha ha ha
What a shameless liar you are neo...you can;t even lie properly... looser.
go home and drink milk baby.
//he then worked diligently to aid the Christians in spreading their false message: Qur’an 61:14.•This verse is extremely important, for it means that Allah helped the followers of Jesus against the Jews who rejected Jesus, and that these followers “became uppermost.”//
The Verse he posted is :
Sahih International
O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah , as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, "Who are my
supporters for Allah ?" The disciples said, "We are supporters of Allah ." And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant.
THIS HAPPENED BEFORE JESUS STARTED PREACHING...NOT AFTER JESUS SO CALLED DEATH.
It was Jesus who asked people,not Allah Almighty. so this part is refuted.
Now last part of cmnt:
// For the next 600 years, Allah sat back and watched all these people converting to, and following Christianity; a religion that was started by his deception.• But he did not bother to lift a finger to correct anything until 600 years later, when he sent Muhammad with the Quran - to sort out the mess that he himself (Allah) had created.Why would God want people to believe that Jesus was dead when he really wasn’t?• Muslims can’t argue that God did it to protect Jesus from the Jews or Romans, since God was taking Jesus away safely anyway!!//
today we have a book,which is 100-200... this is Gnostic Document and is not part of canon.
this say that jesus was not crucified ,he was sitting on tree and laughing on those who were crucifying him.
anyways..What it says is not important here,imp is writing date..which was between 100-200....
IF ALLAH MADE IT FOR EVERYONE TO BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED FOR SINS AND WORSHIP HIM THEN HOW THIS WRITER CAME TO KNOW HE WAS NOT CRUCIFIED ?
there were many others no 1 not 2 but many who believed jesus didn;t died on cross.
ur 3rd claim is refuted.if you think im wrong,then give me proof that for 600 years everyone believed Jesus died on cross.
thank you.
S.A