//Walter Theep STORIES behind KISSING OF BLACK STONE,
1) Narrated Salim that his father said: I saw Allah's Apostle arriving at Mecca; he kissed the Black Stone Corner first while doing Tawaf and did ramal in the first three rounds of the seven rounds (of Tawaf). (Sahih Bukhari 2.678)
2)Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia: 'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you." (Sahih Bukhari 2.667, Sahih Bukhari 2.675, Sahih Bukhari 2.676, Sahih Bukhari 2.679, Sahih Bukhari 2.680)
3) The reason behind this is that the pagan Arabs had the same ritual. Muhamamd kept the same practice, and Umar did feel repugnant about the practice. However, he followed the practice of Muhammad.//
R U BLIND WALTER , IF NOT THEN HOW DOES KISSING BLACK STONE MEANS WORSHIP ?
Even in Hajj,if due to rush anyone can;t touch it, no problem .. this doesnot mean his sins will not be forgiven ..
Sins are forgiven by Allah swt not By Stone Itself and Even if it does then also its possible after Allah Order.
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//3) The reason behind this is that the pagan Arabs had the same ritual. Muhamamd kept the same practice, //
How can The God concept you have was already known by PAGANS ?
Pagans have trinity God :
Pagans Easter :
Pagans Christmas...:
Prove it that these things were not done by Pagans !
I will give reasons,why prophet s.a.w did..
1) Narrated Salim that his father said: I saw Allah's Apostle arriving at Mecca; he kissed the Black Stone Corner first while doing Tawaf and did ramal in the first three rounds of the seven rounds (of Tawaf). (Sahih Bukhari 2.678)
2)Narrated 'Abis bin Rabia: 'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you." (Sahih Bukhari 2.667, Sahih Bukhari 2.675, Sahih Bukhari 2.676, Sahih Bukhari 2.679, Sahih Bukhari 2.680)
3) The reason behind this is that the pagan Arabs had the same ritual. Muhamamd kept the same practice, and Umar did feel repugnant about the practice. However, he followed the practice of Muhammad.//
R U BLIND WALTER , IF NOT THEN HOW DOES KISSING BLACK STONE MEANS WORSHIP ?
Even in Hajj,if due to rush anyone can;t touch it, no problem .. this doesnot mean his sins will not be forgiven ..
Sins are forgiven by Allah swt not By Stone Itself and Even if it does then also its possible after Allah Order.
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Counter :
//3) The reason behind this is that the pagan Arabs had the same ritual. Muhamamd kept the same practice, //
How can The God concept you have was already known by PAGANS ?
Pagans have trinity God :
Pagans Easter :
Pagans Christmas...:
Prove it that these things were not done by Pagans !
I will give reasons,why prophet s.a.w did..
![Photo: How can Jesus be both God's Son and God Himself?
the Phrase (Son of God) in the Bible means a pious good man who is walking in God's way. But the Christians says that this title has a special meaning when attributed to Jesus, which they see as
a distinct Hypostasis with the Father.
Here is the problem that will become clear for every sane person who asks himsef the following question:
What is the difference between (the Son of God) and (Son of the Father)?
If Christians said there is no difference, then that will destroy the doctrine of the Trinity, because it means that the Father alone is God.
If Christians says no, God is not the Father alone, then Jesus (Son of God) is not the son of the Father alone, he would be the son of the three parts of the Trinity. [since the Christian God exists as three persons or hypostases]
so Jesus (the Son of God) in that case will be the Son of (the three hypostases!! i.e he would be son of himself which is impossible and illogical.
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