Exposing Trinity – Part 5 – “I and My Father are One”

 

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Exposing Trinity – Part 5 – “I and My Father are One”

We do not intent to insult any religion, we are just trying to expose today's man made doctrines that didnt existed in Jesus' time.

Let us see some of the famous verses which are most misinterpreted.

⚅[John 10:30] [John 17:21-23]

“I and the Father are one.”

To understand any verse, we should look at its context. Let’s go back few verses and look at its background.

In [John 10:23-27], we get to know that the Jews met Jesus at temple in Solomon’s porch. Jews ask Jesus, that if you are Christ(Messiah), then why don’t you tell us. Jesus tells them “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me…”.

In [John 10:28], Jesus says “I give them(followers) eternal life, and they shall never perish; NO ONE WILL SNATCH THEM OUT OF MY HAND.”

In [John 10:29], Jesus says “MY FATHER, who has given them to me, IS GREATER THAN ALL; NO ONE CAN SNATCH THEM OUT OF MY FATHER’S HAND.”

Finally Jesus says [John 10:30] “I and Father are one”.

This just means that, whoever follows Jesus, no one can snatch them from Jesus’ hand. Also, no one can snatch them from the Father’s hand. So in that perspective Jesus says “I and the Father are One.”. This just means that no one can them from Jesus as well as Father’s hand. They are ONE in purpose.

Let me give you an example. If I am a doctor and my father is a doctor, and I say, "I and my father are one". This just means that I and my father have the same occupation, i.e we both are doctors.

But still some Christians argue that this verse proves that Jesus is God, like the Father. Lets see [John 17:11], Jesus prays for his disciples saying, “Holy Father, protect them by the power your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be ONE as we are ONE.”.

Those who argue that Jesus and Father are One in [John 10:30], according to them, they must also agree that, in above verse, all the 12 disciples and Jesus and the Father are also One. So now according to them, there are not 3 gods, but 14 gods (12 disciples + Jesus + Father). This is clear illogical.

⚅[John 10:33]

“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

Christians say that Jesus here claimed to be God, so the Jews stoned him.

But Jesus himself gives the answer in [John 10:34-36] “Is it not written in your Law(Torah), I said, Ye are gods? “To whom the word of God came are called them gods, (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world(that is Jesus), ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?”

Jesus says that, all those who received the Law(Torah), were called gods by the Almighty Himself.

[Exodus 4:16] – “and you shall be to him as God”

[Exodus 7:1] – “And the Lord said to Moses, “See, I make you as God to Pharaoh;”

[Psalms 82:6]- “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;”

Thus, god in their language just meant a leader. So Jesus just confirms that, Jesus also follows the Torah, he too can be called as Son of God, just like the rest of people.

⚅[John 1:1]

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

Firstly, these words are not of Jesus

Let us see the word to word greek translation of the verse

"Word was with God" – Here, greek word “ton-theon” is used for God which is in accusative form, meaning “THE GOD”

"Word was God" – Here greek word “theos” is used for God which is in nominative form.

According to Greek grammar, “ton-theon” is used for a particular object/subject. Thus this refers to the One Ultimate Father God.

And “theos” used here is for general sense. Thus this word is used generally for someone who is a leader/superior person. In the bible, many are called "theos" gods(leaders). Example: Satan is called "theos"(god) in [2 Corinthians 4:4].

In simple / Layman’s terms.

“ton-theon” = THE GOD (The Only One God)

“theos” = god (leader)

so finally we translate [John 1:1] as

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with The GOD, and the Word was god(leader)”.

Hence, "Word" here is called as a leader and not as a God.

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