Response against fl.at ea.rthers
Scientific Comparison: Quran vs Bible
In Revelation 7:1 and 20:8 the phrase
“the four corners of the earth” is used.
Therefore, it is argued, the earth MUST be flat like a sheet of paper because it has four corners! !!!
We are told that we should trust the Bible over the word of man and that we should, therefore, reject the model of the globe earth presented by NASA and embrace the flat earth as here taught in the Bible.
Revelation 7:1 King James Version (KJV)
7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Revelation 20:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore
The Earth has Edges?!
"that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it? (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:13)"
"He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth. (From the NIV Bible, Job 37:3)"
"for he views the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens. (From the NIV Bible, Job 28:24)"
"Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea. (From the NIV Bible, Job 11:9)"
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There is no contradiction between saying that it is round and saying that it was spread out, because in fact in its totality it is round, but to the one who stands on it and looks at it, it appears flat, as it appears to everyone.
He flattened it for you and me to live in it as A Mercy
But it's sphere as in He rolls the day and night verse
Exactly as you sit on a train for u it looks like static but it's running
Earth is like train
It's running along with other planets 5 trillion kilometers per second but you see it motionless
Will u say it's static bc you can't see it moving
Yes it's like saying The earth is static and motionless for your shortsighted eyes while in fact it runs lol
Dare you say earth is motionless?
Since earth is running and we can't see it
Then it's The same as it's round and we can't see it
But only with technology we can see both lol
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The Bible says: The Earth is flat! (Isaiah 11:12 KJV, Revelation 7:1 KJV, Job 38:13 Jeremiah 16:19, Daniel 4:11: KHV) When it comes to scientific claims, the Bible has the many unscientific claims.
The Bible claims that Earth has four ends and four corners. Nobody can ever think a ball or a cycle to have corners and ends!
SQUARE CIRCLE!!!!
Only flat items can have corners and ends, and this is exactly what the bible is trying to express regarding the shape of the earth.
The earth is not flat, as once thought and it has no corners or ends at all. If Magnetic Poles can be taken as ends or corners of earth, then this definitely opposed to the axis of rotation.
Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV)
Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from any place. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.
On the other Hand Quran says:
Earth is geospherical in shape
The Qur’an mentions the actual shape of the earth in the following verse:
“And we have made the earth egg shaped”. [Al-Qur’an 79:30]
The Arabic word Dahaha means egg shaped. It also means an expanse. Dahaha is derived from Duhiya which specifically refers to the egg of an ostrich which is geospherical in shape, exactly like the shape of the earth. Thus the Qur’an and modern established science are in perfect harmony so Quran is not copied from bible.
In Islam in Quran
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Earth a spherical body
Allah says
(39:5)
"He created the heaven and the earth with the Truth; He rolls the night over the daytime, and He rolls the daytime over the night, and He has subjected the sun and the moon, each of them running to a stated term. Verily He is et The Ever-Mighty, The Superb Forgiver."
The Arabic word "Kura" means ball; its verb "Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ" means to make into a ball. The Quran says that the overlapping of the night and the day makes a ball (sphere)
Arabic dictionaries cite that yukawwiru يكور is like you hold a ball and roll a turban around it over and over again
The Quran says that Earth has a diameter (diameter is simply twice the radius).
[Quran 55,33] O company of Jinn and man, escape the diameters (Aktar in Arabic اقطار) of the Heavens and the Earth if you can, You won't escape without authority.
Diameter in Arabic is Kutr قطر. Its plural is Aktar اقطار. Radii and diameters are properties of circles or spheres only. This conforms with the previus verse, to make into a ball [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ].
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For centuries it was believed that Earth is fixed and the sun, moon and planets revolve around it. However 1400 years ago the Quran said that not only the sun and moon but even Earth moves in a designated path:
“It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).” [Quran 36:40]
Interpretation scholars say all of the celestial bodies are included
Ibn Hazm (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
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The proofs of the Qur’an and Sunnah indicate that it is round. End quote
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Ibn Katheer said:
That is, He spread it out, prepared it, made it stable and made it firm by means of the mountains.
Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 8/247
Similarly, the verse “Have We not made the earth as a bed” [an-Naba’ 78:6] means that it is spread out and prepared for you and for your benefit, so that you can cultivate it, build dwellings in it and travel through it.
Ibn Katheer said:
That is, it is prepared for people in such a way that they can live in it, and it is firm, stable and steady.
Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 8/307
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Also, The Quran says that Earth has a diameter (diameter is simply twice the radius).
[Quran 55,33] O company of Jinn and man, escape the diameters (Aktar in Arabic اقطار) of the Heavens and the Earth if you can, You won't escape without authority.
Diameter in Arabic is Kutr قطر. Its plural is Aktar اقطار. Radii and diameters are properties of circles or spheres only. This conforms with the previus verse, to make into a ball [Yukawer يُكَوِّرُ]
The rotation of Earth is slowing down, that is, days are getting longer. The Quran says that Allah persistently asks more of the day and more of the night, that is, for the day to get longer:
[Quran 7.54] And your Lord, Allah, who created the Heavens and the Earth in six days and then settled on the Throne. [Allah] Covers the night with the day, asks for it persistently; and the sun and the moon and the stars enslaved by His orders. Is this not His creation and His command? Blessed be Allah the Lord of all the worlds.
If God asks more of the day and more of the night then this means the days are getting longer. Physics wise this means that the rotation of Earth should be slowing down. However this is what it really turned out to be: The rotation of Earth is indeed slowing down.
[Quran 50.7] And the earth We have spread it out (والارض مددناها), and set thereon mountains standing firm, and have produced therein every kind of lovely pairs (of plants).
The Quran says that God spread out the Earth 'والارض مددناها' meaning increase in surface area during formation. 'Madda' in Arabic means 'spread out', however it was mistranslated to 'flat'.
Flat in Arabic is "musattah مسطح" and its verb (to make flat) is "sataha سطح" ..however neither were used in the entire Quran. The Quran says that God spread out Earth, it is made for us to be flat but it's round as mentioned above
The Quran mentions that it's rotating
Does earth run into space?
Modern science informed us that the moon is moving around the earth in an oval, or elliptical orbit. Also the Earth and the rest of the planets, revolve in oval, or elliptical orbit around the sun.
For centuries it was believed that Earth is fixed and the sun, moon and planets revolve around it. However 1400 years ago the Quran said that not only the sun and moon but even Earth moves in a designated path:
“It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).” [Quran 36:40]
Interpretation scholars say all of the celestial bodies are included
“He it is who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; ALL travel along swiftly in their celestial spheres.” [Quran 21:33]
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